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PostSubject: nagash and preknown   Fri Sep 07, 2007 12:39 pm

falldown was on a very short term ban, like a week tops, then he kept
making new accounts to bypass the ban and keep posting. he also got a
hold of one of those IP proxy things that illegally give you a
different IP on the internet.

This annoyed us, but we put up with it. he was on a short term ban and
if he could have stopped treating us... the DBS Staff... like shit, we
would have let him back. then he pulls the rest of the shit. So what if
he claims it was a joke at the time, if i put something hurtful in a
url, and then say i was just joking, does that make it ok.

So the way i see it is that i personally pay for the domain and
webhost, and if i don't want one minor individual that has no
constructive effect on the mod or community (he played in a small
tourney that had LOADS of people wanting to play in it, hardly makes
him anything special), then i should be allowed to ban that person
without question. If the person who pays for the communities forum
can't decide who is banned from the forum, then who can? the admin? the
mod leader? all are still me... and it's not like i don't have support
from others in the community and mod staff about this matter either...
i don't just ban at random, i'm all for second chances, even more
chances than that tbh, but fallout has gone beyond his 10th chance as
far as i'm concerned, and he's not getting another chance.

after i banned him also, like a few weeks after, i saw fallout add me
on MSN, and i even decided to give him another chance to see what he'd
say. we talked, and he just dug himself a deeper hole. he acted like a
prick and said he wasn't bothered about using the forums. so fair
enough, if he doesn't even want to use them, i don't see why you should
be trying to get him back in. by the sounds of things though, he still
views this forum, but doesn't post... which i'm more than happy for him
to do, i just don't want him posting here.

fyi... through all this, he hasn't even hinted at apologising once.
When i accepted him on MSN, all he had to do was sincerly say he was
sorry, and i would have let him back in... which i said to gundy during
the time when fallout was trying to make excuses like "it was a joke
lol".

so this kinda plea for his freedom is to little to late i'm afraid. if
someone else wants to start a DBS community though, i won't have any
say over who uses that, so he can be someone elses problem if you like.

so this is what nagash originally said

ok so i was banned, not knowing how long, i made new accounts they got banned, fair enuf.

then this "illegal" proxy thingy dont know where he got that from but read this
"Your right to anonymity

Amendments 9 and 10 of The United States Bill Of Rights
protect the right to be free of unwarranted and unwanted government
intrusion into one's personal and private affairs, papers, and
possessions. Article 12 of The United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights states, "No
one shall be subjected to arbitrary interference with his privacy,
family, home or correspondence, nor to attacks upon his honour and
reputation. Everyone has the right to the protection of the law against
such interference or attacks.
"

Despite some charges to the
contrary, anonymous Web surfing is not the sole province of criminals.
Anonymity also serves whistle blowers, free speech advocates, and
people just looking for personal privacy online. Privacy is not a crime
and anonymity is not morally ambiguous or wrong, they are your right."

so this was not illegal in anyway

"This annoyed us, but we put up with it. he was on a short term ban and
if he could have stopped treating us... the DBS Staff... like shit, we
would have let him back. then he pulls the rest of the shit. So what if
he claims it was a joke at the time, if i put something hurtful in a
url, and then say i was just joking, does that make it ok."

so this rest of the shit was what? that link epilepsy link?
thats the reason i was banned in the first place, maybe he doesnt understand that it was first thing that i was banned not something that i came to by allmeaning to harm peoples there after being banned..

ok lets move on, now this MSN thingy, i added him and talked to him about this with respect, and he thinks thats acting like a prick
so when fallout was trying to make excuses like "it was a joke lol".

im fallout nice to know but its falldown (had to remind you)

i was not trying to "make" excuses i told it was ment as a joke and i didint know what epilepsy even actually does, and i did not once say LOL
i have never laughed about this matter, does he think its realy for me to fun to harm and laugh at other peoples?
NO!

again more that nagash has said

"as i said, he's had more than one "one
more chance". that was just the tip of the iceburg, and even if you'vce
forgiven him, doesn't mean i have. unless your the only person in the
world with epilepsy, then you can't forgive him on behalf of everyone
in the world that has it.

:/ been all through this in private, with moderators and staff and
fallout, don't really wanna go through it all again about why he's
banned... does it really matter why he's banned? he is, and it's not
going to change.

also looking at weeman's first post again... very clever of you weeman
:/ the way you constructed that post. eg: 1st Nagash, he's some sort of
tyrant letting power go to his head, 2nd fallout, he's innocent and
done nothing wrong, being picked on by nagash... yeah i know it doesn't
say that exactly, but thats the way it's constructed. next time you try
to make me look like the bad guy, remember to list the things that i've
done thats good for this community, which far out number the good if i
do say so myself... and also if your trying to make fallout look the
good guy, remember to list the bad things he's done, like annoying the
staff (which delays the mod since we need to sort out his shit), which
far out numbers the good things he's done.

so i have had more than 1 chance? i havent gotten 2, i got banned and after that my bans have never been lifted thats it, NO chances....

and here he obiviously has no respect to weeman, even tough i think that what weeman said to nagash was with respect and did not mean it like that at all, just twisting others words to defense your self.

now that account was created with my bothers laptop, created by me and yes i used proxy to prevent hackers getting to my IP witch is very legal, and even hes account got banned.

now for this nagash started to threaten other members of oW, like weeman
he said if he wouldnt keep me in control he would MAKE others around me do it. so now he can threaten us like he wants just to get hes mind throu?

Fallout was Delaying the Mod by giving the staff a Hard Time he even
asked me to try to get him unbanned truth is i did not try to even talk
him out of his ban with anyone and anything that delays the mod Makes
Mjam sad yes?

something that mjam said, so did i delay the mod? nagash had to use some of his time to this and maybe some moderators but not any of the devs so does this realy delay and if it does, how long?
matter of minutes? hours? prehaps day or 2 but not weeks or months. so big deal.

the preknown forums ATM (at the moment) did not have anything about posting this kinda material..epilepsy.

but what it seems to me is that nagash wanted apoligisy nvm the others and he made his mind without knowing the facts and just cant admit being wrong, not a least bit..

as i have said if he wants me banned from forums, its not so bad (he thinks this means i DONT want to use them)

anyways just to add fewthings, yea i read the forums with other computer and had my say about thing throu him. for this a rule has been added but after this never have i posted with other accounts.

- if u have any questions ill be happy to fill the missing info Very Happy

well this ends my arguement with nagash :S

oh yea and nagash if you read this, im very very sorry for everything i have
done and i apoligise from every1 that i have in ANYWAY harmed.

i especially want to apligise every1 who has epilpsy. and i might have caused some kinda seizure or something :S i hope i didint. Sad
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PostSubject: Re: nagash and preknown   Fri Sep 07, 2007 12:48 pm

hope fully we can just leave it at this

i doubt you will ever be unbanned but at least your not banned from the mod(yet Wink)
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PostSubject: Re: nagash and preknown   Fri Sep 07, 2007 12:55 pm

well anything said here should not effect me or any members of oW in anyway...
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PostSubject: Re: nagash and preknown   Fri Sep 07, 2007 4:24 pm

Maybe we should let this whole topic die. Its not really helping the cause if you do want to get back in. Only thing I have to say is that since kontrol has forgave you isn't that more important then whether or not you are allowed on the forums.
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PostSubject: Re: nagash and preknown   Fri Sep 07, 2007 11:49 pm

falldown u got many chances u just kept remaking accounts to get back on the forums. eventually nag and the other mods got sick of it so nag ip banned you. but despite this you still get back on as m-vegeta.
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PostSubject: Re: nagash and preknown   Sat Sep 08, 2007 12:20 am

i think here again m-vegeta was only me. thats not true

i made actually the account, but mainly my brother used it
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PostSubject: Re: nagash and preknown   Tue Sep 11, 2007 11:18 am

lol falldown isnt that the american laws, hes english
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PostSubject: Re: nagash and preknown   Tue Sep 11, 2007 3:28 pm

It is also one of our best laws
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PostSubject: Re: nagash and preknown   Thu Sep 13, 2007 11:30 am

preknown is american but europian laws are pretty same
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